Argument: Early teenage sex and marriage were common in Medieval Europe, as in Shakespeare’s Romeo and Juliet where the heroine is 13 going on 14. Fictional portrayals, such as Game of Thrones, also give us an accurate glimpse at what sexual and marriage customs might have been like (sex and marriage to very young women was acceptable). In the past old enough to bleed, old enough to breed was the norm.
My answer in brief: Wrong.
I wish I had access to like JSTOR and other databases because I really want to read some of the articles cited here (especially the one mentioned at the end, “Oral Contraceptives and Early-Term Abortifacients during Classical Antiquity and the Middle Ages”). Soon, soon I hope
You say you have a BS in Geology so you must have learnt something about the nature of debate. Just saying something is wrong is no more than a denial and totally worthless. The sad truth about the past is that it does not meet the same “high” moral standards we claim to have today. But that is no reason for trying to change history. For instance, I am gay but I hesitate to go along with the late John Boswell’s attempt to find gay identities and relationships as we understand them in the ancient and medieval world. In ancient Roman society the “father of the household” had sexual relationships with whomever he chose, including his often quite young wife, his female slaves and, if he pleased, his male slaves. That makes him - and them - neither better nor worse than me (in my monogamous gay relationship); it just makes him and his world different.
You should probably click through and actually read the article, because if you did, you would know that no one here actually just said “WRONG” and left it at that. There is actually a significant chunk of evidence showing that the popular (but incorrect) idea that 13 year old girls in medieval Europe were routinely married off to old men and expected to have sex with them straight away and bare their children is in fact not historically accurate at all. No one here is trying to change history, merely illuminate it.
But please continue lecturing people on stuff they didn’t even do so you can dismiss their arguments without weighing their evidence in the name of academic rigor, of all things. It gives the rest of us something to laugh at.
Being laughed at by people who defend even beginning a response the way whoever it was did is what I would expect, just as I expected to be laughed at by the lowest ability children I once taught. Laughter is the usual response of those who don’t understand.
By the way, “bare” should read “bear”.
But no I won’t be reading your article, not because I am not interested in Romeo and Juliet but because I prefer to read articles by those competent to write them. Bye bye.
Hi, I’m the person who posted the link (the one with a BS in Geology), and to my knowledge neither of us wrote the article (at the very least, I didn’t), I just usually try to share links with more than just a title so I took the author’s opening statement and put it in a blockquote to set it apart from my own thoughts
So I mean
Continue having fun being an asshole to a person who to my knowledge didn’t write the article, and definitely didn’t post the article in the first place
Have a nice day
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